By James Nelson

Okay, so I for one am a man who enjoys a good fan theory every now and again. I can’t help but indulge in the idea that each James Bond is a different person who assumed the code identity of Bond (until Skyfall debunked this theory), or that all of Tarantino’s movies either exist in the same universe or are themselves films in that universe. However, there is one theory that has cropped up since the first teaser for The Force Awakens, that has continued to gain steam. That theory is that Luke Skywalker is in fact Kylo Ren. In short, it’s preposterous, and I’ll explain why.

  1. This picture from The Force Awakens.luke skywalker
  2. Look at this picture of Kylo Ren:kylo-ren-stormtroopers-1280ajpg-4487d1_1280wand now this picture: kylo ren unmaskedYou see how the two pictures of Ren are clearly the same person? Okay.
  3. Now the particularly paranoid fans out there will not take this photographic evidence at face value. After all, JJ Abrams is a sneaky one. He wouldn’t be above leaking images to throw us off his mystery box madness would he? Well, lets take a look at Mark Hamil’s current physique. Mark Hamill is 5 feet 9 inches tall and at the time of film production looked like this: bearded mark hamillAdam Driver, the one who was CAST AS KYLO REN, is 6 foot, 3 inches tall, and looks like this:
    Adam Driver is the tall one on the far left. Mark Hamill is on the far right.
    Adam Driver is the tall one on the far left. Mark Hamill is on the far right.

    You see. They don’t look alike. In every shot we’ve seen it’s obviously been Adam Driver, but if physical evidence is not enough to convince you, stay with me.

  4. Return of the Jedi was about one thing: Luke saving his father from the grip of the Dark Side. It was about Anakin Skywalker finding redemption and Luke passing his final trial.  luke-vader-jedi-cut-hand-offHe was “a Jedi, like my father before me.” It would be a shocking character reversion for Luke to fall to the Dark Side after facing such temptation, and then turning away from it. I’m not saying that Luke couldn’t still be tempted, but Luke wouldn’t be leading stormtroopers into battle. If he were to have fallen to the Dark Side he would probably be the head of the Knights of Ren, or maybe even be Supreme Leader Snoke.
  5. Also, when the crossguard lightsaber was first introduced, a lot was made about how it was constructed. It seemed to be what someone who had never seen a saber would have thought was Abrams has even said that Ren built the lightsaber and stated that it was as “fierce and as ragged as the character.” Which seems to be another way of stating that this might be his first attempt at a saber. We all know Luke has already built a saber.
  6. Finally, without Luke serving as the new Ben Kenobi (I personally think Han will serve that role and he will be like Yoda) there is no one left to teach the ways of the Jedi. In canon (as of now), all the Jedi are dead except Luke. Now they could potentially learn from Force Ghosts, but that would be a strange way of doing it. If Luke fell, and did not train any other Jedi, then there is no one left to teach them.

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14 thoughts on “6 Reasons Luke Skywalker is Not Kylo Ren”

    1. Other than Leia could teach Jedi … Because, you’d think that she’s learned a thing or two in the past 30 years.

  1. Yeah! There are all sorts of theories out there about what’s going to happen in Episode 7 but this one in particular we wanted to address. Thanks for the feedback! Any others you would want us to analyze??

  2. Remember in RETURN OF THE JEDI where Yoda tells Luke the force is strong in family? I sure hope to see Leia use it as she was able to sense Luke in EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. I’m hoping to see some Jedi like trait because after all she is Anakin daughter and he had tons of Midi clorians so why couldn’t leia?

  3. I understand your theories about Luke not being Ren, and some of it clearly makes sense (height difference) but my friend and I have had some long discussions about Luke BEING Ren. Here are some of our thoughts on it.

    Ren has Vaders helmet, which means he would have had to go back to Endor just to retrieve his helmet. Also in the new trailers you see Finn wielding Luke’s lightsaber that would have fallen when he lost his hand in Bespin. Someone would have had gone back to retrieve that as well (that last fact is not as important). But you can clearly see that Kylo Ren is obsessed with Vader and wanting to finish the work he started… why would someone be so obsessed with Vader if they did not have a personal/emotional attachment to him? With the theory of Luke turning and becoming Ren, I don’t know what happens or why he would have decided to turn to the dark side, but think about this, Yoda said “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” Luke feared becoming his father (as Vader not Anakin). From this we saw Luke with a lot of anger (think about his battle in the new Death Star against Vader) and hate for the Emperor. From there we don’t know what became of his emotions because the movie ended. But overall, between Empire and ROTJ you can see Luke’s emotions leading down that path that Yoda mentions.

    Also stepping outside of the story and looking at the big picture: Before the prequels, you had the impression that the trilogy was about Luke. Then 1 2 and 3 came out and you realize that the 6 chapters were actually about Anakin. But think hypothetically, if the next 3 chapters are about Luke being Kylo, that would make so much sense because then through chapters 4-9 would center around Luke meaning that 4-6 were transitioning from Darth Vader to Luke.

    Those are my thoughts. Thanks for listening.

  4. This movie is the worst. That’s the price while pickin amateur cheapest movie star, soon Kylo Ren became Kylo Rent as an adult movie star. Too many questions unanswered in this movie, who’s the girl, how r2d2 got half map of luke and other droid have other. The scene taken by SW 1 dessert, finally cheap endin attack, copied by SW 4. Conclusion Mr Lucas will hang himself after watchin his movie had been destroyed

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